We are builders
at the edge of tomorrow
The AI hype cycle is deafening. Everyone is talking about what AI might do. Very few are showing what people are actually building today.
"How to Build with AI" is a buildcast for the pragmatic optimists. We sit down with engineers, designers, founders, and product leaders who are in the trenches right now — figuring out how to wrangle language models into production-ready products. No thought leadership. Just hard-won lessons from the frontier.
The Hosts

Kate Marshall
▸ Co-Host · Fractional CAIO, Founder of TheGrai
Kate Marshall helps HR leaders, executives and marketing teams adopt AI safely and strategically. As a fractional CAIO, she works with organizations that need hands-on support translating AI from theory into day-to-day workflows, policies, and team enablement. Her focus is on building AI confidence and improving execution, while reducing risk.
Kate is the Founder and lead AI Strategist at TheGrai (thegr.ai). She partners with executives and non-technical teams to implement responsible AI practices across hiring, learning, employee experience, research, positioning, launch workflows, and daily productivity. Her work blends PMM systems, HR operations, and emerging technology to help teams move faster without sacrificing governance.
Before launching TheGrai, Kate spent 18 years at the SANS Institute leading curriculum strategy, courseware development, and marketing teams. She later served as Director of Summits, producing global cybersecurity events and co-chairing the AI Cybersecurity Summit. She also launched the first AI Hackathon at SANS to help practitioners translate innovation into real organizational value.

Enrique Rubio
▸ Co-Host · Founder & CEO, Hacking HR
Enrique is an HR, Tech and Future of Work expert, keynote speaker and author. He is currently the Founder and CEO of Hacking HR, a global learning community operating at the intersection of future of work, technology, business and organizations, with thousands of members all over the world. He is also the former Head of Global Community at a media company, building a global community of local chapters covering every major city and region in the world.
Enrique is one of the top 100 HR global influencers. He was the founder and CEO at Management Consultants, a firm specialized in Human Resources in Venezuela. Before Management Consultants, Enrique worked in the telecommunications sector as a Senior Project Engineer for Telefonica and several other companies in the early to mid-2000s. He is a guest author in several blogs about innovation, management and human resources.
Enrique frequently speaks about topics ranging from DEIB, future of work, HR strategy, employee experience, and technology. He designs hundreds of learning programs for the HR community in the form of events and short-term programs. Enrique is a Fulbright Scholar, and Electronic Engineer with an Executive Master's in Public Administration from Maxwell School at Syracuse University.
What Makes Us Different
Practical
We skip the philosophy and go straight to the implementation. If you can't use it to build something today, we don't talk about it.
Unfiltered
We talk about the failures just as much as the successes. Building with AI is messy right now, and pretending otherwise helps no one.
For Builders
This isn't for passive consumption. Every episode is designed to give you a specific mental model, tool, or framework you can apply immediately.